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Stat Attack: MXGP of Great Britain

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As MXGP heads to Great Britain this weekend, statistics maestro Paul Pearcy has provided MX Vice with some incredible numbers to digest ahead of what looms as another exciting round at Matterley Basin. Enjoy.

MXGP STAT ATTACK MATTERLEY BASIN

Jeffrey Herlings

  • Races: 3; 2021, 2020, 2018
  • 1st in Timed Practice: 1; 2018
  • Race Laps Led: 16; 13 in 2020, 3 in 2018
  • Races Won: 3; the first race in 2020, 2 in 2018
  • GP Wins: 2; 2020, 1-1 in 2018

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 2.33
  • Qualifying Race: 2nd 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 4th 
  • Race Finishes: 2nd 
  • GP Overalls: 1.67
  • Race First Lap Position: 2.83

Total Points: 135

Tim Gajser

  • Races: 5; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2016
  • 1st in Timed Qualifying: 4; 2022, 2020, 2019, 2016
  • Qualifying Race Wins: 2; 2019, 2016
  • Qualifying Race Laps Led: 13
  • Race Laps Led: 51; 3 in 2022, 2 in 2021, 13 in 2020, 17 in 2019, 16 in 2016
  • Race Wins: 6; 1 in 2022, 1 in 2021, 1 in 2020, 1 in 2019, 2 in 2016
  • GP Overalls: 2; 2022, 1-1 in 2016

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 2.33
  • Qualifying Race: 2nd 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 2.25
  • Race Finishes: 2.58
  • GP Overalls: 2.16
  • Race First Lap Position: 4th 

Total Points: 259

Romain Febvre

  • Races: 5; 2021, 2020, 2018, 2016, 2015
  • Race Laps Led: 20; 12 in 2021, 8 in 2015
  • Race Wins: 1; in 2015

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 8.8
  • Qualifying Race: 17th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 11.33
  • Race Finishes: 4.16
  • GP Overalls: 3.33
  • Race First Lap Position: 5.33

Total Points: 111

Jeremy Seewer

  • Races: 5; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018
  • Race Laps Led: 11; in 2022

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 8.2
  • Qualifying Race: 7th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 6.67
  • Race Finishes: 6.2
  • GP Overalls: 6th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 5.8

Total Points: 155

Glenn Coldenhoff

  • Races: 7; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2016, 2015

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 13.57
  • Qualifying Race: 10.6
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 9.6
  • Race Finishes: 8.92
  • GP Overalls: 8.85
  • Race First Lap Position: 9.28

Total Points: 171

Jorge Prado

  • Races: 3; 2022, 2021, 2020
  • Race Laps Led: 14; in 2022
  • Race Wins: 1; in 2022

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 9.67
  • Qualifying Race: 4th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 4th 
  • Race Finishes: 5.83
  • GP Overalls: 5.67
  • Race First Lap Position: 3.33

Total Points: 100

Calvin Vlaanderen

  • Races: 3; 2022, 2021, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 8.33
  • Qualifying Race: 10th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 11th 
  • Race Finishes: 16.83
  • GP Overalls: 15.67
  • Race First Lap Position: 17.5

Total Points: 35

Ben Watson

  • Races: 2; 2022, 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 20.5
  • Qualifying Race: 19th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 22nd 
  • Race Finishes: 11.25
  • GP Overalls: 10.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 14th 

Total Points: 39

Benoit Paturel

  • Races: 1; 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 15th 
  • Race Finishes: 17th 
  • GP Overall: 16th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 10th 

Total Points: 11

Brent Van Doninck

  • Races: 3; 2022, 2021, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 16th 
  • Qualifying Race: 16th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 19th 
  • Race Finishes: 19.165
  • GP Overalls: 20th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 20th 

Total Points: 16

Pauls Jonass

  • Races: 3; 2021, 2020, 2019

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 7th 
  • Qualifying Race: 13th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 14th 
  • Race Finishes: 14.17
  • GP Overalls: 11.67
  • Race First Lap Position: 11th 

Total Points: 56

Mitch Evans

  • Races: 2; 2022, 2020

Averages

  • Qualifying: 11th 
  • Qualifying Race: 18th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 17th 
  • Race Finishes: 12.25
  • GP Overalls: 12.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 13.75

Total Points: 38

Ruben Fernandez

  • Races: 1; 2022

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 9th 
  • Qualifying Race: 5th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 6th 
  • Race Finishes: 12.5
  • GP Overall: 13th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 12.5

Total Points: 17

Hardi Roosiorg

  • Races: 1; 2022

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 25th 
  • Qualifying Race: 22nd 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 25th
  • Race Finishes: 20th 
  • GP Overall: 21st 
  • Race First Lap Position: 21.5

Total Points: 2

Alessandro Lupino

  • Races: 7; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2016, 2015

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 12.28
  • Qualifying Race: 14.8
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 17.2
  • Race Finishes: 17.85
  • GP Overalls: 16.28
  • Race First Lap Position: 17.21

Total Points: 70

Valentin Guillod

  • Races: 5; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2018, 2016

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 20.2
  • Qualifying Race: 11.67
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 9th 
  • Race Finishes: 15.5
  • GP Overalls: 16th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 13.9

Total Points: 62

Alvin Ostlund

  • Races: 2; 2022, 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 24th 
  • Qualifying Race: 21st 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 24th 
  • Race Finishes: 20.25
  • GP Overalls: 19th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 20.5

Total Points: 9

Brian Bogers

  • Races: 4; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 13.25
  • Qualifying Race: 15th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 16.5
  • Race Finishes: 15.25
  • GP Overalls: 16.25
  • Race First Lap Position: 15.37

Total Points: 47

Alberto Forato

  • Races: 2; 2022, 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 22nd 
  • Qualifying Race: 8th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 8th 
  • Race Finishes: 19th 
  • GP Overalls: 19th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 20.25

Total Points: 28

Maxime Renaux

  • Races: 1; 2022
  • Qualifying Race Wins: 1
  • Qualifying Race Laps Led: 10

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 5th 
  • Qualifying Race: 1st 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 1st 
  • Race Finishes: 4.5
  • GP Overall: 4th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 6.5

Total Points: 35

Ivo Monticelli

  • Races: 4; 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 21st 
  • Qualifying Race: 21st 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 13.5
  • Race Finishes: 24.12
  • GP Overalls: 25.25
  • Race First Lap Position: 18.625

Total Points: 11

Henry Jacobi

  • Races: 3; 2022, 2021, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 12.33
  • Qualifying Race: 14th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 20th 
  • Race Finishes: 15.16
  • GP Overalls: 16th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 14.33

Total Points: 45

Harri Kullas

  • Races: 2; 2019, 2016

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 27.67
  • Qualifying Race: 19th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 20th 
  • Race Finishes: 22.165
  • GP Overalls: 23.33
  • Race First Lap Position: 24.83

Total Points: 9

Tom Koch

  • Races: 4; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 30.25
  • Qualifying Race: 24.5
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 26.5
  • Race Finishes: 26.875
  • GP Overalls: 27.75
  • Race First Lap Position: 26.625

Total Points: 6

MX2 STAT ATTACK MATTERLEY BASIN

Jago Geerts

  • Races: 5; 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018
  • 1st in Timed Qualifying: 1; in 2022
  • Race Laps Led: 5; in 2020
  • Race Wins: 1; in 2020
  • GP Wins: 1; in 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 9.8
  • Qualifying Race: 8.67
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 8.67
  • Race Finishes: 8.5
  • GP Overalls: 7th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 9.5

Total Points: 136

Roan Van De Moosdijk

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 4th  
  • Qualifying Race: 4th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 5th 
  • Race Finishes: 6th 
  • GP Overalls: 6th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 7.83

Total Points: 86

Petr Polak

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 30.25
  • Qualifying Race: 24th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 27th 
  • Race Finishes: 25.25
  • GP Overalls: 26.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 23.75

Total Points: 9

Jan Pancar

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 22.25
  • Qualifying Race: 19.5
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 16.5
  • Race Finishes: 22.25
  • GP Overalls: 24.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 24.25

Total Points: 11

Mikkel Haarup

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019
  • 1st in Timed Practice: 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 6th 
  • Qualifying Race: 23rd 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 16.5
  • Race Finishes: 13.96
  • GP Overalls: 15.25
  • Race First Lap Position: 16.25

Total Points: 79

Andrea Adamo

  • Races: 2022, 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 14.5
  • Qualifying Race: 6th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 6th 
  • Race Finishes: 12.75
  • GP Overalls: 13th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 11.25

Total Points: 33

Kevin Horgmo

  • Races: 2022, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 21st 
  • Qualifying Race: 9th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 10th 
  • Race Finishes: 14.5
  • GP Overalls: 15.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 14.25

Total Points: 28

Thibault Benistant

  • Races: 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 2nd 
  • Race Finishes: 7th 
  • GP Overalls: 7th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 9th 

Total Points: 28

Simon Laengenfelder

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020
  • Qualifying Race Win: 1; in 2022
  • Qualifying Race Laps Led: 10; in 2022
  • Races Won: 2; in 2022
  • GP Overalls won: 1; 1-1 for the win in 2022
  • Race Laps Led: 25; 14 in the first race, 11 in the second race, all in 2022

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 12.67
  • Qualifying Race: 1st 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 1st 
  • Race Finishes: 12th 
  • GP Overalls: 13.33
  • Race First Lap Position: 14.33

Total Points: 81

Isak Gifting

  • Races: 2022, 2021, 2020

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 17.67
  • Qualifying Race: 14th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 24th 
  • Race Finishes: 12.75
  • GP Overalls: 12th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 11th 

Total Points: 33

Joel Rizzi

  • Races: 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 29th 
  • Race Finishes: 24th 
  • GP Overalls: 27th 
  • Race First Lap Position: 24.5

Liam Everts

  • Races: 2022

Averages: 

  • Timed Practice: 18th 
  • Qualifying Race: 26th 

*First turn crash in the qualifying race put an end to his weekend

Kay de Wolf

  • Races: 2022, 2021

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 9.5
  • Qualifying Race: 5th 
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 2nd 
  • Race Finishes: 9.5
  • GP Overalls: 8.5
  • Race First Lap Position: 14th 

Total Points: 48

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Stat Attack: Top Threes of 2023

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As we look towards the 2024 season, MX Vice and Paul Pearcy have joined forces again to deliver some quality statistics, as we’ll be running through the top 10 in each championship across 2023 (MXGP, MX2, 450, 250 – AMA Supercross, SMX and Outdoors and Australian Supercross). Here are all the riders that secured 3rd in their respective title races.

MX2

3) Simon Laengenfelder

  • 1st in Timed Practice: 5; Trentino, Agueda, Lommel, Uddevalla, Afyonkarahisar
  • Qualifying Race Wins: 5; Trentino, Vantaa, Afyonkarahisar, Maggiora, Matterley Basin (2nd most wins in class)
  • Qualifying Race Podiums: 13; out of 16 attempts (81% podium rate in qualifying races, best percentage in class)
  • Qualifying Race Laps Led: 57; (2nd best in class)
  • Race Podiums: 18; 3rd most in class
  • Race Wins: 8; 2nd most in class
  • GP Podiums: 9; 3rd most in class
  • GP Wins: 2; 1-1 at Intu Xanadu, Uddevalla
  • Race Laps Led: 141; (21% of total laps, 2nd most in class)

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 3.187; Best in class
  • Qualifying Race Finishes: 2.875; Best in Class
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 3.562; Best in Class
  • Qualifying Race Points: 131; Most in Class
  • Race Finishes: 3.375 in Race 1(Best in Class), 3.875 in Race 2(3rd best in class)
  • GP Overalls: 3.5; 2nd best in class
  • Race First Lap Position: 4.968; 3rd best in class
  • Race Points: 321 from Race 1(2nd most in class), 303 from Race 2(4th best in class), Total of 624

Series Points: 755

MXGP

3) Jeremy Seewer

  • 1st in Timed Practice: 1; Frauenfeld
  • Qualifying Race Podiums: 6; Intu Xanadu, Villars Sous Ecot, Teutschenthal, Sumbawa, Loket, Uddevalla
  • Qualifying Race Laps Led: 2
  • Race Podiums: 15
  • Race Wins: 2; Race 1 at Villars Sous Ecot, Race 2 at Uddevalla
  • GP Podiums: 7
  • GP Wins: 3; Villars Sous Ecot, Uddevalla, Maggiora
  • Race Laps Led: 62; (9% of total laps) 

Averages

  • Timed Practice: 4.421; 4th best in class
  • Qualifying Race Finishes: 6.778
  • Qualifying Race First Lap Position: 5.222; 4th best in class
  • Qualifying Race Points: 105; 4th best in class
  • Race Finishes: 6.157 in Race 1, 4.157 in Race 2(3rd best in class)
  • GP Overalls: 4.684; 3rd best in class
  • Race First Lap Position: 6.842
  • Race Points: 310 from Race 1, 344 from Race 2, Total of 654 (3rd most in class)

Series Points: 759

250 West Coast Supercross

3) Levi Kitchen

  • Heat Race Podiums: 4
  • Heat Race Wins: 3; Seattle, Denver, Salt lake City
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 26
  • Main Event Podiums: 4; Anaheim 2, Glendale, Denver, Salt Lake City
  • Main Event Win: 1; Anaheim 2
  • Main Event Laps Led: 20; (11% of total laps)

Averages

  • Qualifying: 5th 
  • Heat Race Finishes: 2.857; 3rd best in class
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 5th 
  • Main Event Finishes: 6.556
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 7.253

Series Points: 156

250 East Supercross

3) Max Anstie

  • 1st in Qualifying: 1; Houston
  • Heat Race Podiums: 3; Houston, Indy, Nashville
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 3
  • Main Event Podiums: 4; Houston, Tampa, Daytona, East Rutherford
  • Main Event Win: 1; East Rutherford
  • Main Event Laps Led: 14; (8% of total laps)

Averages

  • Qualifying: 4.7
  • Heat Race Finishes: 4.667
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 5.333
  • Main Event Finishes: 5.7; 4th best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 4.741; 2nd best in class

Series Points: 182

450 Supercross

3) Cooper Webb

  • Heat Race Podiums: 7
  • Heat Race Wins: 2; Seattle, Atlanta
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 19
  • Main Event Podiums: 9
  • Main Event Wins: 2; Tampa, Arlington
  • Main Event Laps Led: 17; (3% of total laps)

Averages

  • Qualifying: 6.133
  • Heat Race Finishes: 4.5
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 4.181
  • Main Event Finishes: 2.785; 2nd best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 4.307; 3rd best in class

Series Points: 304

250 American Outdoors

3) Jo Shimoda

  • Moto Podiums: 10
  • Moto Wins: 3; Moto 2 at Southwick, 1-1 at Ironman
  • Overall Podiums: 4; Southwick, Millville, Budds Creek, Ironman
  • Overall Wins: 1; Ironman
  • Moto Laps Led: 53

Averages

  • Qualifying: 6.363
  • Moto Finishes: 4.636 in Moto 1, 4.545 in Moto 2(2nd best in class)
  • Overall Finishes: 4.454 (3rd best in class)
  • Moto First Lap Position: 6.545

Series Points: 393

450 American Outdoors

3) Aaron Plessinger

  • Moto Podiums: 5; Moto 1 at Hangtown, Moto 2 at Thunder Valley, Moto 2 at Washougal, Moto 2 at Budds Creek, Moto 2 at Ironman
  • Overall Podiums: 3; Thunder Valley, Budds Creek, Ironman
  • Moto Laps Led: 7; 3rd most in class

Averages

  • Qualifying: 8th 
  • Moto Finishes: 4.818 in Moto 1, 3.909 in Moto 2
  • Overall Finishes: 4.363; 4th best in class
  • Moto First Lap Position: 5.227

Series Points: 386

250 SMX

3) RJ Hampshire

  • 1st in Qualifying: 1; Chicagoland
  • Moto Podium: 1; Moto 1 in LA
  • Overall Podium: 1; LA

Averages

  • Qualifying: 4.667; 3rd best in class
  • Moto Finishes: 7.333 in Moto 1, 7.667 in Moto 2
  • Overall Finishes: 7th 
  • Moto First Lap Position: 8.167

Series Points: 122

450 SMX

3) Chase Sexton

  • 1st in Qualifying: 1; LA
  • Moto Podiums: 5; Only time off of the box was moto 2 at LA
  • Moto Wins: 2; 1-1 at Z Max
  • Overall Podiums: 2; Z Max, Chicagoland
  • Moto Laps Led: 32; (33% of total laps)

Averages

  • Qualifying: 2; Best in Class
  • Moto Finishes: 2nd in Moto 1(Best in Class), 8th in Moto 2
  • Overall Finishes: 4.667; 3rd best in class
  • Moto First Lap Position: 2.667; Best in Class

Series Points: 126

CR22 85 Cup

3) Lachlan Allen

  • 1st in Timed Practice: 2; Newcastle, Melbourne
  • Heat Race Wins: 3; Lachlan won all 3 heat races he contested
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 13; Most in Class
  • Main Event Podium: 1; Adelaide

Averages

  • Qualifying: 1.333; Best in Class
  • Heat Race Finishes: 1st; Best in Class
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 1.667; 2nd best in class
  • Main Event Finishes: 3.667; 3rd best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 8th 

Series Points: 58

Australian Supercross SX3

3) Kayd Kingsford

  • Heat Race Podiums: 2; Adelaide, Newcastle
  • Heat Race Win: 1; Adelaide
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 4
  • Main Event Podium: 1; Newcastle
  • Main Event Laps Led: 10; Most in Class

Averages

  • Qualifying: 3.667; 5th best in class
  • Heat Race Finishes: 3.333
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 2.333; Tied for 4th best in class
  • Main Event Finishes: 4.667; Tied for 4th best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 3rd; 3rd best in class

Series Points: 52

Australian Supercross SX2

3) Cole Thompson

  • Heat Race Podiums: 3
  • Heat Race Win: 1; Melbourne
  • Heat Race Laps Led: 5; Tied for 2nd most in class
  • Main Event Podiums: 2; Newcastle, Melbourne

Averages

  • Qualifying: 4.667
  • Heat Race Finishes: 2nd; 3rd best in class
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 1.667; 2nd best in class
  • Main Event Finishes: 3.667; 2nd best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 6.556

Series Points: 85

Australian Supercross SX1

3) Josh Hill

  • Heat Race Podiums: 2; Adelaide, Newcastle
  • Main Event Podiums: 2; Newcastle

Averages

  • Qualifying: 4th; 4th best in class
  • Heat Race Finishes: 2.667; Tied for 5th best in class
  • Heat Race First Lap Position: 3.333
  • Main Event Finishes: 3.333; Tied for 3rd best in class
  • Main Event First Lap Position: 5.444; 5th best in class

Series Points: 94

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Alberto Forato signs up for Standing Construct Honda MXGP

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Although it’s been speculated for a while, it’s always great to get the official PR! One of the rider’s favourite teams to work under, Standing Construct Honda have secured the young and talented Alberto Forato for 2024. Along with Pauls Jonass the team will surely be not just one of the professional in the paddock but fun and friendly! A great match.

Standing Construct Honda MXGP is delighted to announce the signing of Italian sensation Alberto Forato for the upcoming 2024 MXGP season. The 23-year-old talent is set to campaign a Honda CRF450R alongside Pauls Jonass in the highly anticipated 2024 FIM Motocross World Championship.

Forato first made waves on the world stage in 2013 in the European Championship EMX150 class, where he competed on a Honda CRF150 and finished as the championship runner-up. Since then, his remarkable talent has propelled him through the ranks.

Starting his 450 career in 2021, “Alby” has demonstrated consistent improvement each year. After finishing 18th overall in his first full season in MXGP, he has progressed impressively, and finished 11th in 2022.

Continuing his upward trajectory, the charismatic #303 achieved four top-five race finishes in 2023, which includes a thrilling third-place finish in Race 1 at his home Grand Prix in Maggiora.

He was also one of only six riders to win a Qualifying Race and ended his 2023 campaign ranked seventh in the world.

Alberto Forato:
“I’m happy to be back with the Honda family and to join the Standing Construct Honda MXGP team. It’s so important to have a solid team behind you and a strong bike, so I’m really looking forward to the new challenge and seeing what we can do in 2024.”

Tim Mathys:
“We are pleased to welcome Alberto Forato to the team for the 2024 MXGP season. We’ve been watching him in MXGP over the past two years, and his progress has been nothing short of impressive. He will be a great addition to our team, and we look forward to seeing what he, together with Pauls Jonass, can achieve!”

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